8.04.2006

sweet tea: black queerness and the south

so part of my academic work is thinking about the relationship between black queerness and the south and lately i've been thinking a lot about the current debate in the black gay community on the in/appropriateness of muscle, homothug, gym culture, shorthanded in personal ads as simply, "no fems! no fats!". check out kevin bynes's blog on this.

i really started thinking about this last night at my most recent visit to cc's in raleigh (a gay club that turns hip hop/house on thursday nights. it's the only night that actually packs the club on a regular basis but cc's owners still insist on making more whitewashed techno the regular fare the rest of the week). while standing at the bar getting a beer a guy came up to me asking about my hair. he then proceeded to tell me that with hair like mine (a locked fauxhawk) i was in the wrong city and should relocate to his hometown of houston, tx (where apparently the "girls would eat me up"). now this was a very "masculine" guy, if black masculinity in this case is associated with what hip hop deems masculine: platinum grill and jewelry, wavecap, big white t, etc. after throwing up the "x" in an attempt to convince me just how great texas is (?!), he confides that he just moved to the triangle area and was pretty distressed at how "feminine" he found the guys around here. "they're too feminine here," he lamented. "the guys at home are like me. ya know...gay thugs. it's all that sweet tea y'all be drinkin'." i immediately thought about the general ban on "fems" lately and began to really take notice of cc's. so in this particular space, in this particular south, the "no fems, no fats" logic seemed not to apply. in fact, "fems" and "fats" dominated (overwhelmingly) the space, apparently in ways that made this particular "gay thug" as he called himself (or homothug) uncomfortable.

so i'm most interested in this guy's immediate need to pinpoint the difference in the black gay community here in north carolina. so he blames it on the abundance of sweet tea...obviously said as a joke, but interesting that he associates an almost celebratory flaunting of queer femininity at cc's and the triangle more generally, with the iconicity of southernness. and although he himself hails from texas, he made a clear distinction between texas as south and nc as south.

so how does this particular sweet tea south disrupt the possible generalizations about the lack of desire for "fats" and "fems"? how does this moment help us to think through how to define the south(s): as a psychic space, as a place associated with slavery, a temporal space, a geographic space, or a cultural one defined by foodways, let's say? what is the south's relationship to femininity? black femininity? queer femininity? and what about fatness/thickness and the south? (particularly in light of houston baker's claim that the south is defined by and through it's very "thickness" (in heat/humidity, in tangled racial histories, in violence, and possibly in bodies??)

5 Comments:

Blogger Ynkuya said...

Hello Shuck N Jive,

I think that the question for me is: Does his declaration that there are too many fems neccessarily mean that North Carolina's Black LGBT scene is truly dominated by fems? I can honestly hear the same statement coming from the mouths of many whites who declare, "I'm not comforatble in my suburb anymore because of all the niggers." This statement does not neccessarily mean that the area is dominated by blacks. It only means that there are too many Blacks for him.

As a Black gay man living in the South. As a black gay man who has been in the south since 1994 I can say with confidence that the "No Fats, No Fems" culture has as strong a foot hold in the south as it does in the North.

7:14 PM  
Blogger shuck'n'jive said...

and i agree with you, his comment should not be taken as any sort of "fact" as to the construction of the black queer community here in the triange. and it's important to hold that this dude was also from The South (writ large).

but i'm more interested in why he chose to associate femininity in this context with southern iconicity. so how was he distinguishing this particular south from say atlanta or houston? there's something about a particular southern specificity that points to a plurality of "souths" or "southernnesses" that intrigues me, over and above his declaration of the perceived overabundance of fems....but thanks for getting me thinking!

7:23 PM  
Blogger the young people's professor said...

thanks for these sharp comments. i love your title. im sure you must be familiar with E. Patrick Johnson's (Professor of African American Studies at Northwestern) forthcoming book SWEET TEA: AN ORAL HISTORY OF BLACK GAY MEN IN THE SOUTH.

11:21 PM  
Blogger AC said...

i guess what would be interesting would be if he would say the same of atlanta or another city in the south other than that of his home town...he may be attaching a certain type of sentimentality to texas (throws up an x sign...haha) with regard to masculinity/femininity...

you said that the club had it's overwhelming share of fats/fems and from what i've seen, it seems that fats/fems is read on a body as feminine: what i mean is that if the body is fat, it is still read as "feminine" (i.e., weak, lacking control, non-thuggish, etc) and if the gender performance is "feminine" the same can be said...

is it possible that sweet tea not only serves as an understanding for gender performance (i.e., "too much sugar in the tank) but of a critique of eating habits...(i.e., too much sugar causes a "fat," and "unhealthy" body)...

9:24 PM  
Blogger shuck'n'jive said...

i think hollambeeee brings up a great point about nostalgia...particularly nostalgia's relationship to desire. i.e. self-defined "gay thug" looks back on texas as the space where he can act on his desire for particular bodies, as well as a space where he can sentimentally remember when his "gay thug" body was desired as well. hmm....

and yes, i agree with you about the mutually constituitive nature of "fems" and "fats."

10:50 PM  

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